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meridian_rose) wrote2012-05-05 04:03 pm
meridian_rose) wrote2012-05-05 04:03 pm
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LotS Discussion
I'm gathering notes for the rewrite of my legendland hiatus fic and I'd appreciate some input on character ages in show canon, specifically in relation to Darken, Giller, and Jeziah.
Darken is in his late thirties I think, and younger than in the books. Zedd is in his sixties? So when Darken was a baby, Zedd was maybe in his late twenties.
How old is Giller, and how old is Jeziah? My feeling is that Jeziah is older than Giller. I also think Darken is older than Giller. I've got a scene with Darken at around thirteen years old, and I need one of Zedd's students at the palace. To my mind, Jeziah would be late teens or so, while Giller would be younger – still a child.
That said, have at it in the comments. It doesn't really matter in an AU I suppose, but I'm trying to keep a few elements intact, and I don't want to mess about with the ages too badly. So what would most convince you?
Darken is in his late thirties I think, and younger than in the books. Zedd is in his sixties? So when Darken was a baby, Zedd was maybe in his late twenties.
How old is Giller, and how old is Jeziah? My feeling is that Jeziah is older than Giller. I also think Darken is older than Giller. I've got a scene with Darken at around thirteen years old, and I need one of Zedd's students at the palace. To my mind, Jeziah would be late teens or so, while Giller would be younger – still a child.
That said, have at it in the comments. It doesn't really matter in an AU I suppose, but I'm trying to keep a few elements intact, and I don't want to mess about with the ages too badly. So what would most convince you?
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I actually see it as, Rada Hans cancel out the ability to perform magic, not all magic that has ever been done to a person. So say Shota uses her magic to continually keep herself young (which I believe she does based on the line "When the magic goes, youth goes" implying that that's what she does). The Rada Han would cut off her ability to do magic at the time that it is put on forward.
So let's say Shota is 300, but she's kept herself looking 30-40 with magic. The Rada Han is put on. She has -already- made herself 30-40. The Rada Han doesn't negate old spells, it just keeps her from being able to perform new ones. So she would start aging from the day she had the Rada Han put on forward, rather than suddenly gaining all her years back.
Say it's a spell she casts every day - she already cast it yesterday, she just can't cast it today because of the Rada Han. Yesterday she made herself 35. So today she is physically 35 and one day, rather than her actual age of 300.
Say it's a one time spell that just needs continual power to work. Same deal. The spell works until the power is cut off, and then the result is the same as above.
I think this theory is further supported by canon by the fact that Zedd returns Richard's youth to him in "Wizard." If the youth wouldn't stick even with a Rada Han around the person's neck, then Richard should have turned old again in "Light" and "Dark" when he Rada Han'd himself to trick Nicci.
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I definitely agree that the spell to keep oneself youthful is something one casts every day and which then sticks - I think for me the problem is, what if Shota is 300? Why aren't there more wizards from centuries ago still hanging around causing trouble?
Or are there? ;)
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I think that's answered by saying you have to have a certain level of power to maintain such a spell. Zedd is the most powerful wizard EVAR until Richard comes into his power, and Shota is portrayed as being on a par with Zedd. So maybe there simply aren't a lot of people born with the amount of oomph it would take. And then there could be just those who choose not to be immortal - Zedd himself says he chooses to be old, even though he could stay young (which I actually think is part of his penance for being so arrogant as to help Darken Rahl be conceived, but I digress).
Or are there?
If you count the Sisters of the Light/Dark, then there's loads. :P
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Given people's natural tendency to want what's bad for them, though, and assuming this applies to wizards as much as to anyone else, I can't see so many people choosing not to be immortal, if they had that power.
The Sisters of the Light/Dark are different, though, because they don't live longer, exactly - at least in the show, it's more a matter of a different temporal scale.
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Did Amfortas die in battle? I rewatched that episode recently, and it sure looked like he killed Kieran, did the fancy magic to be sure Kieran's spirit would be trapped, and then stayed in the tomb and died too so that his spirit could obsessively guard Kieran's. Although I suppose he wrote the fake Kieran/Viviane story first, where they die together all romantically.
Whatever happened to Kieran's quest, anyway? Do you think he finished it before Amfortas killed him or not?
Zedd's family seem to be big believers in natural aging. Hmmm. We know both Zedd's mother and Thaddicus didn't have any wizard power, and neither did Taralyn. So the only other person with the power to halt aging would be Carracticus, and Panis kills him while he's presumably still reasonably young...I don't remember how old he looked now. So I'm not sure there's enough evidence to say that.